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“Whoa.”
–Kebanu Roves
It is weird that you can’t do things normally in New York sometimes. Like, I’m so sorry that I ate an early dinner before going to see Avatar on Friday night the way that a HUMAN BEING might do. I’m sorry that I got to the theater at 8:15PM for a 9:45PM showing, because obviously (OBVIOUSLY?) the line would already be wrapped halfway around the building and back again? Was everyone on a special Avatar mailing list with instructions on how insane to make the experience? Because seriously, an hour and a half before the movie is already TOO MUCH before the movie, and yet there we were, stuck halfway up the stairs, not even on the floor of the theater yet. The employees had already handed out glasses to some people in line. But not all people. They came through an hour before the movie and tore our tickets on the stairs. Why did they do that? Where are we? What happened to AMERICA? Anyway, that part was frustrating, to tell you the truth. There is a reason that I don’t really go to concerts anymore, and that reason is because I’m 63 years old, and have very little tolerance for physical discomfort and crowds. Now i can’t even go to the movies anymore, apparently? I might as well just hang up my fedora and check in to the nearest hospital. “I’d like one death bed please.”
But we did eventually get into the theater. And we did eventually see Avatar. And it was eventually great!
The big question leading up to this movie, at least in my head, was is this going to be a great movie, or is this going to be a great World of Warcraft expansion pack, and the answer is basically BOTH! I mean, at some point the visual revolution of Avatar is just going to be a humdrum interstitial narrative animation between Final Bosses on a bargain bin videogame, BELIEVE. But for now it is a movie, and as such, what a fun movie! There was even an enhance scene!
Some of it was dumb. I mean, come on. Some of it was even REALLY dumb. Like, most of the things that came out of people’s mouths for the first 45 minutes. Giovanni Ribisi’s speech about just exactly what the corporation was doing on Pandora, and just exactly what everyone’s individual role in this particular expedition would be, was pretty useful and pretty hilarious. “We are on this planet to get this rock, called unobtainium (UNOBTAINIUM!) which is worth four giggleplexes of dollars per ounce and the aliens are in the way and you’re going to help me get rid of the aliens in the next three months or else I am going to kill the aliens, but one might imagine that were anyone to try and stop me from killing the aliens that it would make quite a thrilling and narratively satisfying climax to this story. Have I made myself clear?” Crystal, Giovanni Ribisi. Crystal.
And, like, maybe it is just me, but I thought it was kind of weird that all of the aliens, who are basically a metaphor for the metaphor in District 9, that is how complicated the racial implications of this movie are to unpack, were played by ACTUAL black people (and one Native American). Weird, James Cameron. Like, it’s one thing to have a group of blue aboriginals roving through Africa2.0 or whatever, but they are all made with computers, and they are supposed to be aliens, aren’t they? Mix it up, Doctor Benetton! We don’t actually have to play out this racial nightmare like for real, do we? (And why was Jake Sully so much better at being an alien than all of the other actual aliens? “Hey, I got this dragon that you guys all worship. I just figured out that I could fly above him. You guys never thought of that because you guys are still a little backwards.”)
And the part that really broke my mind was when Jake first started braid-melding with the animals? Because he is controlling an Avatar body with his human mind and then his Avatar body-mind is controlling another animal/Avatar’s body-mind. So many layers of control. I should have taken the blue pill! (Get it? Movies.)
But all of these complaints are tiny blips on a radar screen that has been obliterated by FUN and VERY AWESOME EXCITEMENT. There is a part in Avatar, pretty early on, when Jake Sully is following Neytiri through the glowstick raver forest, he keeps bopping all of the plants on the head to make them light up, and it’s just like, yeah, yup, I would totally bop those plants right on the head because duh, glow-in-the-dark plants. Bop ‘em! The whole movie is basically us just bopping this whole thing on its head to make it light up. Go! Do it! Do it for my pleasure! And what more do you really want from a movie? This one had mecha-fights and color-tunnel rides and FLOATING fucking MOUNTAINS. If you want more than what there is in Avatar, you are wanting too much and possibly wanting the wrong things. You should work on finding more joy in your life, and not expecting the world to conform itself to your whiny demands. The world is indifferent to you, as it should be. Like, shut up. Seriously.
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This is a pretty good commentary on it as well:
http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar
Yeah, seriously. Why was Jake Sully so much better at being an alien than all of the other actual aliens? Because this is yet another movie about a white man who goes native, bangs an exotic chick, and saves the noble savages. Avatar: Last Of The Mohican Samurai Who Dance With Wolves.
Probably because he was a marine. Or American. I’m pretty sure I detected an Australian-Texas accent too.
Very interesting article and one that echoes many of the same thoughts I had. One of the (many) downsides about having gone through graduate courses in the humanities is that it’s consequently hard to turn off the analytical part of your mind and just enjoy the movie. I kept thinking of Spivak and Howard Zinn and Edward Said and postcolonialism as I watched the film.
“I guess I’M a racist.”
-James Cameron
No.
Anyone who throws Gayatri Spivak into a thread on Videogum deserves to win an xBox 360, but since I gave my last one to a street orphan, you’ll have to settle for my upvote, werttrew.
I think this is a pretty good piece, but ultimately, she is in the minority. “Speaking as a white person, I don’t need to hear more about my own racial experience.” I think for most white people in America, they do not feel the same way. They actually do need “a random white (erm, human) character to explain everything to [them]“.
As a lady of color, I immediately recognized the whole Pocahontas garbage that was going on in Avatar, but I just gave up on caring so I could just enjoy the rest of the movie. I think it’s naive to believe Hollywood will ever stop making these kinds of movies; it will continue until the industry is no longer run by white men.
It’s funny to me that the one movie in recent years that approached native culture eschewing the “white guy goes native” approach was Apocalypto – a movie that was simultaneously interesting and awful – which was done by Mel “Sugar Tits” Gibson, the one guy in Hollywood we know is racist.
I guess the opposite of Dances With Wolves might be something like Oliver Stone’s Heaven and Earth, in which a Vietnamese peasant girl comes to America and becomes a successful businesswoman.
So, wait, let me get this straight. White people screwed over a whole bunch of colored people, and that was bad. I think most of us can shake hands on that. But then white people feel guilty for screwing over a whole bunch of colored people, and that’s also bad? How do white people win this battle!? Campy movies about natives beating the white man is still better than, I dunno, white people actually beating natives. I’ll admit that Jake becoming chieftain and taming a super-dragon was a little weird; people that lived in the forest their whole life can be bested by a guy who’s been there for…three months? Isn’t the balance of nature sort of upset by his UNNATURAL, MUTANT body? But I feel really sorry for anybody who let these things ruin the movie for them. Congratulations, sir, you have officially proven your social consciousness. Too bad you can’t have a good time while you’re at it.
this is a pretty boring and typical-of-that-blog commentary on it as well http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar
Damn. It sounds like I might actually have to go see this movie and I was really hoping I could just point and laugh at all the idiots who shelled out $15 for a ticket to see World of Warcraft: the Movie after they had already shelled out $60 for World of Warcraft: the game.
This movie sucked. One of the most derivative, unnecessary movies I’ve seen in awhile. It was like a videogame, but with no level of interactivity (the ACTUAL appeal of videogames). Not to mention the fact that its absurdly expensive effects ($300-500 million?!?) resulted in aliens that didn’t look anywhere near as realistic as the Prawns in District 9 — a movie with like a tenth of Avatar’s budget. Oh, and FLOATING MOUNTAINS?!? How could you gloss over those, Gabe? How stupid is that??? Physics do not magically change just because it’s a different planet.
Oops. Missed the floating mountains reference in the post (not sure why). My apologies, Gabe.
Ha! AHA! Now I DO think that the character models are ugly and warcrafty… but YOU said that the aliens did not look realistic, as if realistic-looking aliens are a thing that exists! Sorry, Dr. Alien! Sorry that our aliens do not look like the real-life aliens in the documentary district 9!
I broke the comments. This post just happened in reply to Teh Nightman (as it should have) AND down here… at the same time. Merry Christmas, monsters, I got you a broken comments.
Maybe realistic isn’t the right word. Did the Na’vi look tangible? No. They looked like pretty special effects. The Prawns were much more believably constructed. Frankly, they just looked better.
if we’re talking about the striking realism of District 9, the explanation of the utter stupidity of the prawns was pretty much swept under the rug, exposition wise. I think there was a throwaway line about them having lost their leader, maybe?
apparently the floating mountains are loaded with the “unobtanium”, and since it is this crazy superconductor, the mountains float via pandora’s (a small moon) magnetic field. i think he thought of that during the 12 or whatever years he making this story.
I thought the part with the intercoursing dragon/banshee tails was a little rapey –especially when he’s like “You’re mine now”. I was like, “Gross.” But the whole point was that Pandora is like one huge network and the tails are like nasty USB plugs. I thought it kicked ass.
You literally took the words out of my mouth. As soon as the lights came up, I said, “That was rapey.” Didn’t help that Jake had to tie that winged animals mouth shut before he could, uh, ride it.
You thought it was ‘rapey’? Ever hear how horses are ‘broken’. It’s often like this sequence. And no one fucks the horse. Usually
I would comment, but I can’t figure out how to type in the voice of the Comic Store Guy from The Simpsons.
I had posted on Twitter this comment right after seeing the movie:
“Unobtainium”? Really? “You’re really on me, James Cameron!!” –The Nose.
However, caringiscool pointed out to me that unobtainium actually has some history as a sci-fi fantasy term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
Still kinda silly, but at least less silly.
I had too much fun with this movie. It was probably the smartest dumb fun I’ve seen in quite a while. Also, if you’re not watching it in 3D, you’re doing it wrong.
2 things-
A: When the Buff Badass General dude (with the swiped face) was examining footage of Jake destroying the cameras on the trawler deals, he’s all “ENHANCE” – I damn near died.
And 2 – I saw the preview for some Shite Valentine’s Day movie with all of these random famous actors, and one was THE Topher Grace. At the end of the trailer I was like, so that’s what’s up with Topher Grace. No one laughed but me, on the inside. (I was secretly hoping to find a Gummalo in NW Indiana… Would have had more luck finding a Juggalo)
But yeah, good flick.
Oh my God me too! I was the only one in the theater who laughed when he said ENHANCE! It was like an Easter egg for monsters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R94jWItg95w
Teh_Nightman, I think Gabe is talking to you there at the end of the post.
That said, he has been known to not follow his own very good advice when it comes to movie reviewing.
Also, love teh_username.
“What in Avatarnation is going on here?” – 2010
You go to movies to have fun?
Clearly you are not the curmudgeonly snob who I thought I fell in love with, Gabe. ;_;
(Seriously though, a 2 1/2 hour videogame cutscene sounds like a recipe for snoozahol for me personally.)
C’mon sons… it was at least a little better than when I saw Law Abiding Blind Side: Revenge of the Fallen… 3D.
I’m sure that if I was seven when this movie came out, I’d be real terrified. Real terrified.
I’m sure that if I was seven when this movie came out, I’d be real terrified. Real terrified.
I, for one, loved the compelling dialogue and original plot. I just don’ t know why they didn’t spend more time on the special effects.
not to be all seriousgum but why can’t we have a great movie with mecha-fights and color-tunnel rides and FLOATING fucking MOUNTAINS that doesn’t also have kind of racist-ish undertones? I think I would enjoy a movie like that a whole lot more! but maybe I have been downloading too many blogs lately.
I went into this movie fully prepared for disappointment. But it was awesome! The world they created was surprisingly well thought out. The animals were evolutionarily compatible. And the plants were similar to each other. And they even (kind of) addressed the weirdly skinny guys and floating mountains by saying that gravity was different there.
I Lots Of Loved it. (Except the dialogue.)
The thing is, that biologically, the Na’vi don’t make any sense. Yes I know I’m nitpicking and I should just enjoy the movie as-is, but c’mon breasts? Belly buttons? They’re not placental mammals. Also their eyes are way too big. Eyes like that are only found on nocturnal mammals. Also their tails are too long and grow from the wrong place. But they are super pretty.
Evolutiongum! TMYK
[I apologize for this extremely long and kind of pointless and annoying post. Just evolution-venting.]
also, they make out like humans.
and “they addressed the floating mountains by saying that gravity was different there” WHAT? BWAHAHAHAHAHAH, that’s your scientific explanation
ohoh, one more, where was the water for the floating mountain waterfalls coming from?
i know i shouldn’t focus on that kind of things, but it just bothers me. i wouldn’t spend a minute thinking about it in the Narnia movies or the Lord of the Rings ones, because FANTASY, but this film is “This is AD 2154, we are scientist, we are in a lush moon of Polyphemus, one of three gas giants that orbit Alpha Centauri A, four point four light years from Earth”, and then “WooHoo!! Flying mountains!! Rainforest horses!! Wooo!!”. And it’s not even like “mutant neutrinos are heating the core!!”, because at least that served a purpose, but this is just eye candy for eye candy sake
also, relax technome
Ugh that bothers me so much! RIVERS FLOW FROM SOMEWHERE, MR. SCIENCE. AND GRAVITY APPLIES TO MOUNTAINS THE SAME WAY IT APPLIES TO EVERYTHING ELSE.
At least it was pretty.
Are they not placental? I don’t remember that being addressed. But as the movie was twelve hours long I am willing to accept that I might have missed something.
I read an interview with whatshisface, because I was interested in the biology of the Na’vi [also, did you know that he gave an English name, a Na'vi name, and a scientific name to every animal on Pandora? WILD! If only he put that much effort into dialogue.] And he mentioned that. And he was like “Yeah, they’re not mammals but I had to give the chicks tits.” Because this is America.
Whoops I think I just outed myself as the worldest biggest Nerdy Nitpicker.
Yeah, Man. I’m no evolutionary biologist or anything, but something else that bugged me is that EVERYTHING on the planet had six limbs (The hammerhead rhino, the anteater horse… even the pterodactyl things had four wings and a pair of legs), except the Na’vi. If six is the evolutionary standard on Pandora (the four is more of less the standard for vertebrates her on Earth), shouldn’t the Na’vi have extra arms or legs or something? On a planet with such unique creatures, the Na’vi were surprisingly humanlike.
Right?? Also, all the land animals they encountered looked pretty damn reptilian. The only thing that didn’t – the Na’vi. They looked like people, with a few tweaks. Where the hell are the mammals, James Cameron?
I know that if the aliens didn’t look like us, and were ugly instead of beautiful, they would be less sympathetic. But if you’re gonna have the scientific pretense of developing a biology for this world, at least have it make SENSE. I don’t see the evolutionary link between the Na’vi and the animals at all.
Also, what are the chances that life on a totally different planet in a totally different galaxy would develop with DNA. DNA, PEOPLE. So unlikely as to be practically impossible. But that would ruin the conceit of the movie.
Again, I get that this is just a movie, and I am getting way to into this. So, relax technoNapoleon. The movie was otherwise very enjoyable.
Wait, also, what about the Avatar bodies? Didn’t they have consciousness? Alright I’m done. SHUT UP, NAPOLEON.
I bet James Cameron originally wanted the Na’vi to have six limbs too, but the technology guys were like, “sorry, we don’t have powerful enough computers to render that many limbs.” When you only have a $500 million budget, you have to make some sacrifices.
i agree with you a lot of love!
i am a big nerd, and i like a lot of things. i usually like stuff… especially nerdy, sci-fi stuff. but this movie was fucking bad. i couldn’t even stay awake through it. and i hate 3D. it looks stupid.
- grandpa
But were there any references to Face/Off?
“This movie was long and indulgent and insanely expensive to create and derivative and racist and had terrible dialogue and I LUVD IT!” – America
The plot was lame, but come on, were you expecting greatness? The visual effects were stunning and that’s why I went to see it, I’m sure you did too.
As much fun and as much floating mountains as Avatar was (which it was lots of), I think its totally fair that people are taking it to task for being kinda racist and completely-kinda unoriginal and derivative. The ‘it’s just a movie, enjoy it for what it is, don’t look too much into it, what more did EXPECT!?’ argument is silly. Every movie would be a great movie if that is how we all looked at every movie. You know who used that argument all the time? Fans of Transformers 2. The moment we stop being critical of movies (even movies we like!) is the moment we become one of THEM.
Haven’t got a chance to see it yet. But I did like this. I think it’s a good sentiment to get behind during the holiday season (or any season).
It was what you would have expected for a movie that cost that much to make. I wish the head bad guy’s death was more graphic. Arrow through the head, more blood, more of what he deserved.
Why couldn’t Giovanni Ribissi have made a really long ham-fisted speech about why there are FLOATING freaking MOUNTAINS? Seriously, what was up with that? “Oh, and on this planet giant rocks float, but nothing else does because of aliens and science.”
Also, someone needs to make an Enhance video of movie characters yelling “Punk ass bitch!” Wait, i think I just found my Christmas week project…
There were a lot of people being called bitches in that movie. Go figure, Sigourney Weaver and James Cameron were in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgFXlEg5XZs (sorry for low quality… It’s like my niche market. (I didn’t post this) )
I decided after reading what it was actually about that I had zero interest in seeing Avatar at all, so I went to see Up In The Air instead! And it was pretty good! Although one thing I can definitely say it lacked was $300 million special effects! (though I totally lots of loved all over that opening credits sequence)
Though having not seen Avatar, and kind of not planning to anytime soon, can I just say that the naming of the planet as Pandora really annoys me? Like, you spent how long coming up with a whole world in Tolkein-esque detail, but you still named your planet with a weak and overwrought metaphor? (this is a very nit-picky complaint, I apologise. that is all.)
I also saw Up in the Air instead! We can have a separate movie club. I also enjoyed it! Clooney was as pretty as ever, and is also good at his job! Golden Globe nod deserved. The young lady who played his coworker was also quite good. And Jason Bateman… well, even if Jason Bateman was starring in Boogietown 2: Battledancing Shit Just Got Real, I would probably still love him in it.
Upvote for Jason Bateman!
This was a good Planet of the Apes re-make.
Yeah, Ferngully was awesome.
YES It was so scary when the baddies wanted to destroy the big tree and the princess fell in love with the outsider. Also, save the rainforests.
Ferngully: The CGI Rainforest
“you are not in kansas anymore.” “for our children’s children.” “i have to do this.” “this is OUR WORLD!”
boy, jimmy, really went deep for that dialogue, didn’t you? really tried to transcend cliche in your utterly predictable script. i had NO IDEA that one dimensional military jerkoff was going to die in such a fashion. how i clapped! how the whole audience clapped! we were excited! we felt things we’ve never felt! the score told us when to laugh, when to cry, when to go take a piss…
man, never have i been so stunned visually by a film, sat so rapt as my eyes had multiple orgasms, only to bear witness to the shittiest script, and most horribly childish dialogue, ever. EVER! i wanted to love this movie, and there were moments i did…but the last fireball 40 minutes just deadened my heart and soul. why couldn’t the Navi find a different, amazing, non automatic rifle and arrow driven way to force back the invaders? why resort to the same tactics as the enemy? why?
anyway, amazing visuals, the world was so fucking incredible i couldn’t believe what i was watching at points, but the story let me down, man. C-
ugh, agreed! I know Cameron has sold his soul and all, but I look at Terminator(s) and Aliens, and compare it to Avatar, and just, bleh. not that it wasn’t fun and all, it was just written by a three year old.
don’t forget, “fight terror… with terror”
“He’s planning some sort of shock and awe campaign.”
The visuals of this movie kicked some serious behinds! The whole world is some mind-trippy stuff. The story is basically very derivative, nothing that has not been done before, but the action and the sequence is very interesting and you are never bored, even though the movie lasts almost 3 hours. And yup, I laughed at “Enhance!!”
That said 2 cons:
- You DO NOT NEED 3D glasses. If you get a chance at Imax: do it!
- The score had some recycled “Lord of The Rings” horn section and the chorus of the final song is clearly trying to go “My Heart Will Go On” on you.
Either way, it kicked it!
I enjoyed this movie as much as anyone can enjoy a 3 hour long racist eye-slapper like this. Even before it ended, though, I knew that the friend I went to see it with hated it in a not-even-funny kind of way. So just to annoy her I clapped at the end, which made her give me
look…with her ridiculously huge IMAX 3D glasses still on. Oh it was a magical moment – an unintentionally hilarious end to a night spent watching an unintentionally hilarious movie.“everything is racist”
- everybody ever
Worst recession since the great depression and we get a $400 trillion dollar movie about Jar Jar Binks by way of the Smurfs. Yay.
How about when human Jake said something to the effect of, “Everything is different now, like out there is the real world and this part is a dream.” Honestly LOL’d in the theater – love that Cameron thinks his audience is so dense that he has a character just say the entire point of the movie.
I’m sorry, but fancy pictures are not enough to sustain my enjoyment for three full hours. My brain was the giant dragon and the script was Jakesully attacking me.
I will admit that the super stereotypical “Hoo-rah!” butch colonel was good for some prime unintentional comedy. That was helpful in getting me through this fucking interminable movie.
It needed some vampires.
yes, because he is an open minded (kinda dumb) warrior in a warrior body trying to schmooze with spiritual warriors. the nerd scientists were too brainy and analytical to ever truly “get inside the heads” of their blue giant puppet bodies. subtlety!
Gabe, I haven’t commented here in months, but I really gotta say, this movie was SO BAD. What were you thinking man??? This movie sucked. I will not leave my brain at the door.
Sort of an old complaint at this point but the movie was Pocahontas Dances With Wolves in Ferngully but with far worst dialogue. So you ask, “And why was Jake Sully so much better at being an alien than all of the other actual aliens?” I asked that too, and why did T’su or whatever the guy set to become Tribe king killed? The film was just too problematic for me. I know YOU INVENTED A NEW CAMERA and everything James C but you could have spent a little more time writing the script, which as far as I’m concerned, is still a really important part of making a film. Also on top of all of this was the fact that I had to wear my 3D wayfarers over my normal nerd-face glasses which was painful for my eyes and also meant the 3D only worked half the time. I really wanted to like this movie, but I did not. However, i certainly appreciate that it’s visually groundbreaking in a Jurassic Park sort of way (except I liked Jurassic Park).
just for kicks, some avatar related jersey shore names:
jakesully: DJ Douchebag
neytiri: The Tan-trum
tsu’tey: T-Train
colonel miles quaritch: The Tan-talizer
avatar: The Position
shitty ass film: Danny Tan-ner
james cameron: The Impact
This movie absolutely blue my mind. Indigo see it again. Azure it’ll be better the second time around!
But first I will put on a pair of Pantone 293
ok that one doesn’t work
You’re my boy, Blue! You’re my boy!
I just blue myself.
the evil colonel looks like brian fury from tekken
I read that as “brain” and thought for a moment mayhaps Jordan Catalano was among us.
A white guilt fantasy with jazzy graphics and empty dialogue just doesn’t sound very appealing. Dances with Wolves is the end all white-guy-goes-native-and-saves-natives movie for me.
No, Gabe, I will not turn my brain off for some eye-candy. Unless that eye-candy is James McAvoy shirtless in Wanted. Then only the sexual arousal part of my brain stays on.
I did not see this movie but I just went to the optometrist and she told me what kind of glasses I should get to most enjoy this movie, and I was basically, “Will you be my friend?”
I’m willing to concede every criticism out there with Avatar, including the dialogue and the racist undertones. I was fully aware in the movie theater that James Cameron was pandering to every single movie cliche that makes American audiences go wild:
1. colonial power encroaching on native lands
2. big corporation vs. environmentalists
3. Dances with Samurai kinda stuff
4. underdog overcomes all odds and wins
that being said, I really did love this movie. Seeing it in 3d was an experience. If nothing else, Cameron showed why he’s a critically acclaimed director and why Michael Bay is widely considered an asshole: those action scenes felt tense and exciting where Transformers 2 felt like one big incoherent explosion.
I really thought this movie needed more airbending.
PRECISELY
Are we, like, twins or something?
I signed in to say Thank You. I never sign in… and I’m not a thankful person.
ummm….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1klLTb1rbE
oh that observation was made already?
awesome.
didn’t anyone notice that Cameron just told Giovanni Ribisi to be ARI GOLD!
I liked it, but here’s what bothered me: the Papyrus, THE FUCKING PAPYRUS! They spent 250 million dollars on making the blue people look good but couldn’t spare a single dime for the font budget?!?!
Papyrus is the new Comic Sans.
All the visuals in this movie are on my YES and ASIA record albums. Which contain better music than this movie’s version of PURE MOODS. The records also have better story and acting…which is NONE.
i lol’d when i heard “unobtainium” for the first time cuz you know Giovanni’s always tossing up jokes cuz he never had a jump shot.
they needed that unobtanium so they could drill to the earth’s core to nuke it to save the world! duh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7ljBKqJdw
When the female helicopter pilot is all “I DIDN’T SIGN UP FOR THIS.”
When the female helicopter pilot says “I DIDNT SIGN UP FOR THIS”
probably the funniest thing ever.
Also, i have taken it upon myself recently to place my palm on the chests of others whispering “fly with me.”
So you basically hate all of Bill Paxton’s lines in Aliens, right? Right? Oh, wait, you don’t? Because that movie came out before the days of achieving snark supremacy on message boards, right?
Are you a troll? You seem like a troll. I guess it’ll all come out eventually. IT ALWAYS DOES.
But in regards to your comment, i really liked the movie Avatar (in my top 5 this year, ferreal) and i liked the movie Aliens. That does not mean they are exempt from having laughably bad or just plain ol’ laughable lines.
And even if Avatar wasn’t exempt but Aliens was, it would probably be because Aliens came out IN NINETEEN-EIGHTY-SIX when an invention like the VCR was CUTTING EDGE and lines like “I didn’t sign up for this!” was INNOVATIVE, and not a cliche.
Not a troll. Never have been.
I love this site. I think Gabe’s hilarious, and so are the commenters, even if many of them OVER-USE ALL CAPS.
I responded to your comment, and I probably shouldn’t have, because it wasn’t that objectionable — there were a lot of other comments that I thought were really idiotic in their criticism of a pretty darn good movie.
I think if it was just a harsh comment, i wouldn’t have thought you were a troll necessarily. Your icon tipped the scales, in my mind i guess.
I fluctuate between all-caps and italics. or both. EMPHASIS IS NECESSARY. And i will not apologize for that ever.
Anyway i know i’ve made the mistake on several occasions of reading comments, getting progressively angrier, and then letting it out on a comment that is fairly innocuous. So no hard feelings. And bros before na’vi or something.
I see you, James Cameron. And you are a pain in the ass.
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One friend-of-a-friend, who I saw this movie with, was all, “I totally saw parallels from the Epic of Gilgamesh, Sumerian tales, and other science fiction works”. To me it played out like Pocahantas, Last Samurai, and District 9 peppered with some anti-imperialist messages. Meh.
But was it as good as Delgo?
did anyone else have issues enjoying a film in which you’re actively rooting against the human race and the american military? i mean, i liked this movie, but i found it difficult to really root for jake sully and the na’vi people when they were killing humans. just my two cents.
First of all, I paid fifteen dollars to see this in IMAX 3D. It was worth every penny. The visual effects and sound design gave me ecstasy flashbacks (wish i was kidding). Yeah everyone knows the story was shaky, buy the technology is what was so innovative. FIfteen years in the making, this movie definitely deserves some credit or Oscars.
I wish they could have got Robin Wiliams to reprise his role as the rapping bat.
Like, I loved it and all, and I do really hope that 2012 turns out to have just been CGI, so that we can jump on Banshees and fly through the Raveforest and blue ourselves in the future. But can we all admit that Sam Worthington (yay for fellow Australians!) had the worst American accent in the history of Australians pretending to have American accents (Oh. Not so much yay.) (But yay for half of Hollywood turning out to have been Aussies!).
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psst. Animal Collective is overrated as well.
Did anyone else notice the TRAVEL MUG the colonel had every time the “sky people” went to blow shit up? “I need at least 3 cups of coffee or I’m in no mood to destroy a civilization. Also, fuck breathing.”- the colonel.
I for one was excited to see Ferngully 2000.
Ban on Dances With Wolves, Ferngully, and Pocahontas references. Not-ban on Delgo.
i know i’m hella late to the party here but i just saw this puppy last night and i gotta say man, not to get all seriousgum, but i’m surprised at how you much you glossed over all the bullshit racism of this movie, especially considering how much you usually harp on this kinda stuff. in addition to the previously discussed bullshit in which the noble savages NEED a white dude to show ‘em how it’s done and save the day there is also just the general stereotyping of native americans. sure, the idea that you all live harmoniously with nature and commune with it and are all generally tree hugging spiritualists isn’t as bad as you guys all smoke crack or are bad drivers or whatever else, but it’s still a bullshit simplistic stereotype that has very little grounding in reality and it’s offensive.
So I saw this and TOTES enjoyed it (while forcing myself to forget my silly anti-imperialist education), but I had just a few problems (like everyone else!)
1. KISSING??? REALLY?? That just transcends planetary bounds and is completely normal for the Na’vi? Because that wasn’t even normal to me until I was 15.
2. I felt like Sigourney Weaver’s information on her character was : “Oh, she smokes? Okay, got it.”
3. Purty nice that the weaponry evolved even more similarly than the life forms.
Anyway, beyond that, still =D that I saw it!
You are all a bunch of Avatards!!
it was like Ferngully on acid.. funny stuff
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/mwop/moviefile/2010/01/avatar-the-sequels-we-wanna-se.php