TWITTER WAR! What is it good for? PLEASE RT! So, right, so, yesterday we had the very sad news that Ryan Dunn from Jackass died in a car accident, probably caused by the heavy drinking he was seen doing just a couple of hours earlier. (It should also be noted that someone else died in the crash with him, and they are obviously not getting any press, but just keep being mentioned as an unnamed person who died, and that is going to be very very sad for their friends and families, too, even if they never had someone else’s pubic hair glued to their tongue while taking a dump in a disconnected toilet at a hardware store, or whatever. R.I.P. unnamed friend of Ryan Dunn.) Soon after the news was released, Roger Ebert (the best) tweeted the following:

Eek! Yikes! Eek!

OK, well, to be fair (to Roger Ebert) drunk driving is incredibly reckless and dangerous, not just to the drunk driver, but to everyone else on the road. I hesitate to use the word luck with anything related to this story, but it is somewhat lucky that this accident wasn’t much worse for someone else driving another car, you know? Does that make Roger Ebert’s “joke”* any more tasteful or meaningful in the face of death? I don’t know. Probably not? But Bam Margera DEFINITELY doesn’t think so! He countered with these tweets:

It should be noted that Bam Margera is the fucking worst, for whatever that’s worth, but even the worst people can have friends, and they are just as entitled to mourn those friends as anyone else. But you guys, this whole thing is actually kind of interesting. Like, it raises a whole bunch of junk. Let’s unpack it:

1. Roger Ebert’s joke was probably a little crass and certainly ill-timed (or perfectly timed?) but what’s most interesting to me about it is that it directly ties into that whole Louis C.K./Jon Stewart/Tracy Morgan post from last week. Roger Ebert is not, by any definition, a comedian. Is he still protected under the “can’t you take a joke?” clause of comedy? This is an actual for real question. Who gets to use that shield when they say something that makes other people upset?

2. THIS IS ALL HAPPENING ON FUCKING TWITTER. Like, Twitter makes sense as a place for Roger Ebert to post his fleeting thoughts about the death of Ryan Dunn. Sure. But for Bam Margera to come back at him on Twitter actually gives Roger Ebert’s initial Tweet way too much power and legitimacy in the first place. IT’S TWITTER! BURN IT TO THE GROUND! And while Bam Margera is absolutely %100 entitled to grieve for his lost friend in whatever means he chooses, I definitely think grieving for your lost friend on Twitter is a weird way to grieve for your lost friend. If one of my best friends ever dies, I’m going to unplug the Internet and everyone’s going back to phone books and magazines. (I can do that I know where the plug is now!)

3. Bam Margera’s complaints about Roger Ebert, while completely justifiable within the framework of a sad person who believes that everyone is as sad as he is, ignores two things: firstly, that the only reason that Roger Ebert even knows your friend is dead is because your friend is famous, and that famous people’s lives (and deaths) operate under a different set of qualifications. That’s the deal. You don’t get to control the story anymore. Secondly, the thing that Bam Margera completely ignores, probably because he does not know it, is that if anyone APPRECIATES THE GIFT OF LIFE, it is Roger Fucking Ebert. The man is basically a walking testament to the will to survive.

The last way in which this is all kind of interesting is how it just goes to remind you that there’s absolutely nothing we can do to prepare ourselves for the vicissitudes of life. We are all going to be faced with these kinds of massive, painful, unexpected upheavals, and we will do the best to face them when they come, but there is nothing that we can do in advance that has any real worth or meaning. The reason I say this, besides it being true and maybe kind of obvious, is that there are few groups of people I can think of who have done more in recent memory to stare death in the face and laugh it off than the Jackass guys. Their entire ethos was an aggressive and sarcastic refutation of mortality. I’m not saying that Bam Margera shouldn’t be sad. Of course he should. It IS sad! And he IS a human being. But if anyone could have had the capacity to have drugged and electric-shocked and stabbed and dick-slapped and diarrheaed their way out of the attendant pain of death, it would have been them. And even they could not. So we’re all stuck with it.

That’s OK! Welcome to the club. We are all members!

*People have been pointing out that this is not a joke. Well, right. That is why I put “joke” in quotations. Although, it’s not just a straight up serious message about drunk driving either. I know what those look like and this is not one. It has a very targeted pun in it. So, then, what is it? GOOD QUESTION!
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  1. YA EBERNT!

    • “BAM!” – Emeril Lagasse

      I don’t think Ebert was joshing. He was probably just trying to remind us that drink driving is the worst.

  2. Yeah… I don’t think it was a joke at all. He meant it and he’s right.

  3. God, I love dusting off that picture.

  4. You know, I don’t know Ryan Dunn, no duh. I’d never even heard of him before yesterday, because I never cared about Jackass. But he made a living doing comedy on a comedy show. And given the nature of Jackass, it seems like he was willing to go to some pretty absurd lengths to make people laugh. So I don’t think it’s completely unfair of Roger Ebert (or anybody else) to make jokes at this time. Tasteless? Probably, yeah. But for a man who made a life out of making people laugh at tasteless jokes, who’s to say that he wouldn’t appreciate it as a fitting tribute?

  5. I don’t think Ebert was joking. Or “joking” for that matter. That tweet is definitely not a joke.

    • It’s both a statement and something of a crass joke, I think. I’ve got to agree with Gabe that the public mourning via twitter always strikes me as odd. It may also be that I’m predisposed to disliking Bam, but it reeks of self-enamored public display. The whole world doesn’t need to see you grieve, Bam; if anything it just comes off as artificial that you feel the need to continue posting these things then, I don’t know, go be with your friends and family.

      It also doesn’t help my outlook on it that Bam is a piece of shit who treats everyone around him like utter garbage and yet expects to be constantly praised and observed. He can’t take even the slightest shitty treatment when it comes his way. Which I realize describes almost every celebrity ever. Which kind of just bums me out.

  6. um, mr. ebert has defended his statement and although some wordplay was involved, i don’t think his intent was to make a joke, but rather point out that 1) don’t drink and drive and 2) you are a jackass if you do.

    another strike against margera: although im sure he is very upset about all of this, he should be the biggest advocate against drunk driving since it killed his friend, rather than proving how infantile he is by basically just saying “waaaaa! i miss my friend! everyone should be as sad as me!”

    but it is all very sad. but we’re all gunna die one day and Ryan Dunn let his light burn a little brighter than almost anyone.

    • These Jackass guys are essentially the figureheads of the dangerous stunt profession for this generation. If they had a clue, they might use this opportunity to remind people how dangerous driving drunk is. If impressionable people (see: Jackass fans) are going to listen to anyone about what is and isn’t extremely dangerous, the Jackass crew would have to be near the top. But I assume that Bam Margera will honor Dunn’s memory by launching a Hummer H2 into the side of his parents house. Same message, right?

      Also: are we even sure that this was completely related to alcohol? I feel like Ebert should have shut his [allegedly 'fat fucking'] mouth before making a public assumption. Maybe he was just speeding? Dodging the rather-common Pennsylvania deer while doing 110 MPH? Sure, it is obscenely likely that they will come back with the autopsy results and his BAC will be through the roof, but I feel like the Tweebert was a little premature. Opinions! They make the Internet run!

    • I agree, explainer. As a Philadelphia local, I found it a little tasteless that Bam’s mother called into the Preston & Steve show (a local radio personality) to break the news that Ryan had died. For all of that mourny-weepy-leave us alone BS Bam is shoveling, they certainly found plenty of time to insert themselves into the media as figureheads of sorrow. What about Ryan’s parents? The family of the “unnamed passenger”? Nope. We’re famous. We grieve harder and are therefore more important. Classless move, Margera clan.

  7. Probably a little too soon to go on the offensive, Roger Ebert. But probably also a little too soon to go on the defensive, Bam. Let’s call this one a wash.

  8. This incident only proves Roger Ebert’s greatness. It took a rare miss on his part to produce the first time in recorded history that Bam Margera is not the one being an asshole.

  9. Okay, I get the whole ‘laugh in the face of death’ jackass ethos, but it’s not easy to forget that he died in a way that very easily could have caused a world of pain and loss to others around him (in addition to whoever else was in the car). Ryan Dunn = sad story. Drunk driving = still very not cool bro.

  10. Team Ebert, no lie.

    People are all “omgz RIP Ryan Dunn” on Facebook while seemingly forgetting the fact that he killed another person by drunk driving.

    Of all the Jackass cast members I wished death upon, Bam Margera was at the top of the list, specifically because he is a whiny little bitch.

  11. Really restraining myself from making a Camp Kill Yourself joke right now…

  12. If Roger Ebert wanted to create awareness about a public health problem, he would have his face put on a graphic health warning on every pack of cigarettes….

    Incidentally, the FDA came out with warnings today that they’re going to put on cigarettes (don’t worry your precious SNUS will be untouched), don’t know if anyone saw (IV)/cares.

    • Oh yes. I saw. My local news and the CBS Early Show (I think that’s what it’s called) has reminded me of the graphic pictures about 5 times every half hour today between updates from the Casey Anthony trial which are ironically that there are no updates because the judge sent them kids home yesterday. Good Morning America, ABC News and Nightline all want to know if I think the pictures are too graphic or if they go far enough on my facebook wall with reposts just for kicks every half an hour or so.

    • I’ve never heard about Ebert being a smoker. I don’t think he was.

    • Wow, those warnings are absurd. They look like the stuff Bloomberg’s been hanging around NYC for years though. After a while, I kind of just phase it out. It’s the 13 dollars a pack that slowed me down.

    • It’s interesting, I’ve been reading a book for work that includes a study on warning labels for cigarette packs in countries like England and Australia. In Australia, they have those type of graphic warnings and they found that those labels work the opposite way you’d expect- people started buying more cig packs (and smoking the cigarettes) because they were trying to “collect” the different packs. And people already knew the health risks with smoking,so having this image didn’t deter them at all.

      Science is interesting.

    • A little tardy to this party, but the bald, very gaunt woman lying down with her hand on her chest is Barb Tarbox, from my home town. As she was dying, she became an anti-tobacco campaigner, visiting schools in the area and meeting with the media. She was very well-known here for her work.

      That photo was taken a few weeks before she died.

  13. I wonder what Roger Ebert would think about the drunk driving portions of GTA 4? Double whammy!

  14. Sort of off topic, but why do (blogs especially) spend so much time writing off Twitter? “2. THIS IS ALL HAPPENING ON F—- TWITTER.” I mean, I’m not Mr. or Mrs. Twitter, or whatever, but like it or not it IS a viable and valid medium of communication. I know, people use it to say ” hey I just farted” or “he come to the Gallagher show, lol” but people also use the internet to sell shoe covers that make your feet look like sheep — that doesn’t make the interwebs any less valuable.

    Will twitter last forever? Probably not and it might never be as important as it is now (how important that is is certainly debatable) but it HAS served to break REALLY large sports, political, financial news stories and is, with the help of blogs and other digital media, helping to murder printed journalism. We teach it/use it in university level classes — it’s hit the big time. It has sunglasses and several imported beers in its fridge. I don’t think something inherently lacks “power and legitimacy” just because it is created and distributed in this medium.

    tl:dr…sorry.

    • there should be a “we” in that first sentence..sorry.

    • I think it’s because the idea of such a restrictive character limit doesn’t really seem to promote intelligent discussion and the sharing of thoughts and ideas. It’s much better suited to Hedberg-style one-liners.

      • I understand that Facetaco, but if comedy is never the intent, 140 characters can still be enough to communicate something with consequences. It’s not like Twitter has no track record historically of being integral to the news cycle. What would 9/11 coverage have been like with Twitter? Sure a lot more misinformation from joe-schmoe, but maybe a lot more insight from CNN/Whoever. Or the revolution even?

        RT@paulrevere @BRITISH Don’t try to take away our guns or liberty. Ringing them bells.AMERICA!

        • Oh, I’m not arguing with you, I think that it COULD be used well. But so could Communism. Doesn’t mean it WILL be.

          • Yeah but it HAS been used well. (maybe communism has been to in like some tiny hippie compound, but they probably got all greedy and hoarded hemp pants, take that hippies!)

            If we were to keep Ke$ha and Lebron James and me and you from having accounts, and just gave them to govt/news folks or whatever, we would theoretically have a different and more favorable opinion of the medium. What I’m trying to say is a bad use of the medium is not a damning of the medium but the user.

            Bad paintings don’t mean art is useless. “You’re just doing it wrong” — Gabe or someone.

          • and I totally don’t mean *you* facetaco. i mean a general you, and Kesha.

          • Bad painting doesn’t mean art is useless, but the proliferation of bad art cheapens art. In the same way, the constant twittering of inane, vain messages is going to impact people’s opinion on twitter. It can’t just exist in a bubble of theoretical potential.

          • Well here’s where my analogy falls short though — with Twitter, you get to determine who you follow/hear. You don’t get to curate your own gallery and say only good art goes here. But you can surround your twitter self with good twitter people and increase the % of quality information/opinions/jokes/whatever.

            Also I don’t think bad art cheapens art, with a capital A, but this is a different discussion altogether.

          • Perhaps cheapen isn’t the right word, but when Thomas Kinkade is a more common household name than, say, Richard Serra or Frank Stella, it certainly alters the public image of art whether academics want to say so or not (and you’re right this is a conversation for another time).

            The habit of walling off “the good” of a certain art or medium, I think, is always something of a fallacy. In the same way that academics separate Art from art (this is the end of this analogy, I swear), one can separate out good tweets from the bad (oh man, someone arrest me for that analogy, please), but this separation does not remove the public perception of the medium. It may make my personal enjoyment of it better–and that’s great–but it only separates me from addressing any of the fundamental problems of said medium. Look at the recent trending topics which are sometimes useful but many times merely reflections of our increasingly vain and shallow society.

            I’m not arguing that twitter is bad or useless. Just that it does have a certain public perception that is perpetuated by the public’s use. It’s an odd, self-regulating loop, and I’ve certainly gone too abstract and pretentious with my logic. My bad! I’ve enjoyed the conversation nonetheless though.

        • Yeah, I wonder how this would’ve went down on Tumblr. Ebert reblogs a news piece with his quip, Bam Margera reblogs it with a crying Dawson gif and a FUUUUU rageface, 19,451 notes easily.

          (yeah, I’m all for Team Tumblr)

      • facetaco, if you hadn’t said this here, I would’ve. right on.

    • Probably because, like most things dealing with the internet, it’s simultaneously powerful and useful while being vain and vapid. I think the dismissal here is less about Twitter itself and more about a petty, pointless argument that is amplified in its worstness by being communicated through a medium privy to 140 character messages of masturbatory self-interest (particularly with certain celebrities). It can be great! But it can also be kind of dumb. In this case, it’s the latter.

    • Well put! Horray for us, CONVERSATION!!

  15. I think this just shows us again how difficult it can be to address complex/meaningful things in 140 characters punched out at the spur of the moment. Yes, this is a bit of a ‘zinger’ because of the pun, but it’s also a true statement. If Dunn was drunk, his friends should not have let him drive, and he should not have driven. From what I know of Roger Ebert (the best), he probably meant this as a way to use a tragedy to further reinforce the very important don’t-drive-drunk message.
    But since this is twitter, there is no context to keep it from being crass and flippant.

  16. What I love most about Bam Margera’s response, aside from EVERYTHING, is his specific choice of “shut your fat fucking mouth”.

    Has he seen Roger Ebert lately, and realized that the man kind of lacks a lower jaw, thus rendering him incapable of being fat or shutting said mouth?

    I can only presume this is ignorance, because Bam’s not smart enough to be that intentionally crass.

    • Haha, that is true! He is literally the first and only person I think of when I try to think of anyone who is physically unable to shut their mouth. Oh, and Tyra Banks (zing)

  17. I think it’s interesting that most of the comments on here are about Ebert being right. Of course, he IS right about drunk driving. But you can be right and a dick at the same time, ya know?

    • You mean like Sarah Palin?

    • Ebert was not the only celebrity tweeting about drunk driving yesterday, but he tried to make a joke out of it, and that’s just wrong. I think if Bam would have just kept his fat fucking mouth shut and grieved for his friend privately (you know, like everyone else usually does), more people would be pointing this out. But by posting what he did, he made it Bam vs. Ebert, and whose side will most people take in that fight?

    • Agreed, Just because you all like Ebert, doesn’t mean this is appropriate behavior for an adult or anyone.

    • Agreed. I don’t think there is anyone who thinks drinking and driving is a good idea even if you’ve done it. But still, timing is key, I suppose. When I saw his tweet yesterday, my first thought was, “Yikes Roger Ebert (the best), you’re right, but isn’t it maybe a little too soon for that?”

      • Sadly, I do know people who think drinking and driving is a good idea. After one of them crashed into a parked car, I thought he would realize he really screwed up. Instead, he refers to it as “a great story I will tell my kids someday”. He also told me not to judge him until I tried driving drunk to see that it was no big deal.

        “Drunk driving being a bad idea” is not always an accepted concept and does require some repeating.

  18. My dad regularly drove drunk. With me in the car. While I’d be devastated if he died from driving drunk, I would also be beyond furious with him for doing something like that in the first place.

    I didn’t find what Ebert said offensive at all, and I was a little surprised to see that other people did.

    If you look at Roger Ebert’s Facebook page now, incidentally, there are a lot of well-wishers who’d like to throw him down one. (A well.)

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    • Well, there was also the other guy in the car whom everyone seems to forget about. Poor other guy. :(

      • I lost 2 friends in a dui accident when I was in high school and I was/am equally mad at both of them. One for driving while drunk and the other for being drunk/stupid enough to get into a car with him. It unfortunately takes two to tango/make really poor life decisions that affect everyone around you.

        • Oh, I know. It’s just a shame that, while expected due to celebrity, many people are openly mourning Dunn while forgetting there was a whole other life taken that shares equal responsibility/tragedy in the situation.

          • true, though maybe for that guys family, its good. they get to mourn in private away from the twitter-verse. that would certainly be my preference. but I’d also tell my kids not to go hanging around with those jackass boys. if I had them.

    • Disagree!

    • This comment gets 5 thumbs down (and counting).

    • So, you don’t like his (admittedly crass) joke about death, and you respond…with a joke about his death?

    • I sort of agreed with you up until you yourself said something EVEN MORE inappropriate. That’s just not nice.

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        • making a not-that-offensive (subjectively i guess blah blah) pun about the death of someone by their own fault and making a mean-spirited joke about a living person being killed are not the same thing.

        • Making a tasteless comment about how stupid drunk driving is, is not as bad as wishing death on another person. Your attempts to confuse the issue are completely ineffectual and downright juvenile. I’m sorry for you.

    • i was just about to click the upvote and then i went all Homer Simpson “aww, why did he have to say that last part?”

    • Is “Lowest Rating Comment of the Week” like a no-hitter? Are we not supposed to jinx it by mentioning it while its in progress?

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      • Yeah that Roger Ebert, always getting up in everyone else’s bizness, trying to stay relevant with the gossip and the memes and the jokes and that stuff he does all the time on twitter.

  20. Not to be stereotypical here, but there’s a large percentage of the Jackass fandom that put on their HIM hoodies and go to karaoke bars to shoot lemon drops for six hours and then jump in their cars as a typical weekend night. So, obviously no one should die for the purpose of becoming a public service announcement, but, if the people mourning Ryan Dunn’s death (and I mean, the public, not his or the passenger’s friends and family obvs) can maybe take the awfulness of drunk driving a little more seriously, that would be a good thing. Ebert didn’t attack the family or the friends or even make that disparaging a statement, the tweet wasn’t directed at anyone, it was sent out and I’m sure will be railed against but if the publicity of the tweet gets a single serial drunk driver to reconsider, there’s nothing wrong with that.

  21. Ebert’s tweet made me cringe a little. But he’s obviously (I think?) describing this guy as a jackass because he was on the show Jackass. And while the death of a young adult is tragic (though frankly there are a million guys his age dying every day so maybe it’s not really tragic?) I have a hard time getting very sad (or even sympathetic) when that young adult kills himself and another by getting wasted and driving his Porsche so fast that he leaves the road and clears 40 yards of trees before finally exploding. Gabe’s point about the fact that it’s lucky that he didn’t kill some innocent bystander precisely echoes my considered reaction to the death of Ryan Dunn. He was essentially driving a missile home from whatever bar/club/house he was partying at.

    When you drink you should take a cab home. The negative potential alternatives are so much more expensive/costly.

    • In fact, upon further reflection, driving 110 miles an hour is ridiculously reckless independently of his blood alcohol level. He could have been fully sober and still ruined or ended the lives of innocent bystanders.

  22. “That’s the deal. You don’t get to control the story anymore*.”

    i am just really concerned about what this footnote was going to say. give us the footnote gabe!

  23. i got 14 down votes for basically making the same joke. i feel your pain, rog.

    • I’m telling Bam!

    • to be honest man, out of the mean jokes about him dying that got made here yesterday, I thought yours actually was the witty one.

      it still hurt, but it is weird and not fair to you that someone else made fun of what happened to his body as he died in an unwitty way and got upvotes for it.

      • I’m trying to figure out if this comment is more of a compliment or an insult to tomjoad. It’s pretty tough.

        • it was meant as a nice consolation. many people on this thread are saying it is a kind of mean thing to do to point out the day the guy died that it was his fault for drunk driving. I think it’s mean, and yesterday I said I thought that kind of thing was mean. but I also basically said who the hell am I, and it wasn’t THAT mean and it’s not THAT bad to say it.

          since all that was sort of already on the table, I was now saying I thought tomjoad’s mean joke was actually a kind of funny parody of the way they introduce stunts on the show. it was a dark, mean, clever joke. it’s a compliment.

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  25. Ebert v. Margera was my Saigon, man. WE BLEW IT, MAN. #HistoryJoke #EasyRiderJoke #Jokes

  26. ” Everyone is assuming that it was a drinking and driving accident based on a twittered picture from several hours before the wreck”

    Uh. I feel pretty safe making that assumption? Like, everything Ryan Dunn ever did kind of robs him the benefit of the doubt. It’s funny when someone has a lack of regard for their own body and does stupid shit to it to make other people laugh, but a complete lack of regard for other people’s lives is irresponsible and terrible, so my only reaction to this is that I’m glad he didn’t hurt anyone else. Except other guy. R.I.P. other guy.

    • To be fair, the other guy did get in the car with him willingly, not to mention he let him drive in the state in the state he was in so I’m willing to say he was as responsible as Dunn for his demise.

      • Completely agree. I didn’t mean to imply that the passenger’s decision was any more responsible in regards to his own life, but it was far more responsible than Dunn’s decision only because he couldn’t harm anyone but himself by getting in that car, while Dunn’s driving could have killed other people on the road.

  27. to be fair to twitter, Louis CK looked like a much bigger idiot when he actually was given space to show how unprincipled and illogical his feelings about Tracy Morgan actually are in that Slate interview that was linked on Friday.

    • Agreed. I read that interview and all I could do was shake my head and move on. He tried to make some point that it was ‘wrong’ for someone in the audience to step outside the venue and tell people about their experience, that comedy’s this special thing that should be given sanctuary within its venue. Or something. It seemed half-baked at best.

      • Nothing in this whole thing hurt as much as having to be mad at Louis CK. Like glass in my fucking gums. I love that man.

        • Ultimately I’m more confused and borderline baffled by what he’s had to say on the issue. However he’s one of the best and most intelligent comedians we’ve got and so I don’t find myself begrudging him too much on this issue. He just seems to be sticking to a vague ‘free speech’ principle and that’s … fine, I suppose. Not his best moment, clearly, but not a jump the shark turn by any means.

  28. I suppose I have never mourned a death via twitter before, but I get that people do that. People feel comfortable opening up on the internet to strangers. “NO DUH.” -Monsters everywhere

    If Topher Grace died, I’m sure everyone would be on Videogum trying to figure out what’s up.

  29. Did anyone else notice this??

  30. I think Ebert’s delivery was off, but obviously he was trying to make a point. And while Bam probably should’ve taken the higher road and said nothing right now, grief is a pretty powerful thing. I think the opposite of Gabe, though; I think Bam is pointing out his grief not as some comment about his friend’s celebrity, but that he was Bam’s real life friend. We feel it’s OK to say those things about Dunn publicly, like Ebert, BECAUSE he was famous and we don’t really know him. In my real life, I know people who make very reckless decisions, and I am not there to stop them all the time. If one of them died and then someone came up to me and brought up the recklessness of the deceased person’s actions, I’d probably want to punch them in the face. That doesn’t make the person wrong, just inappropriate in context. But again, we don’t know Dunn so we can separate the sadness of it from the wrongness of it.

    Also, this has nothing to do with anything, but I think Dunn’s death seems to point to a larger behavioral issue. While some of the Jackasses were addicted to drugs, it seems they are all addicted to this sort of reckless decision-making. I mean, whether or not he was drunk, it really doesn’t make sense for anyone to be driving so fast unless they’re searching for some sort of danger-high. I guess I’m just pointing out that addiction comes in all forms.

  31. What’s with all my favorites indulging in mean shit? At this point I’m just counting down the minutes until video surfaces of Tina Fey dropping serious N-bombs.

  32. I liked Rob Delaney’s response:

    http://twitter.com/#!/robdelaney/status/82876041638576128

    I like Ebert fine, but unfollowed him a while ago. I already saw those Steampunk Typewriters, Ebert!!!

    • Ha. That’s good.

      And it was a dick thing to say for a really cheap laugh. It was insensitive and shitty. Nothing really more to say.

  33. The best part is that Roger Ebert uses a Twitter client called SocialOomph.

  34. I feel that I feel that everyone involved in this story who is still alive is perfectly justified for everything they have said and done.

    I am also kind of sad that the guys of Jackass have been revealed to be human beings (oh crap, pull this one out of the fire quick, [NA] Betty…). I mean OBVIOUSLY, but also, they’re nothing special? Part of me saw their hijinks as a rejection of how we’re all terribly scared, quaking mortals waiting for the moment death comes. “I don’t give a fuck if this port a potty kills me! We’re all getting it in the end anyway!!”

    But nope. More scared. More quaking. Just usually much drunker, being egged on, and sometimes on too much heroin. RIP Ryann Dunn, I’m glad people are crying for you.

  35. Why is this conversation even taking place if it’s not certain Dunn was drunk? There was a photo of him with an alcoholic beverage. Does that mean he was over the legal limit? He may well have been, but maybe everyone can at least let his body cool down before we tap into our outrage.

    • I’m with you here. Everyone really seems to be jumping the gun on this whole story. I honestly hope that it wasn’t being a “jackass” (ugh) that ended his life far too early, but assuming that it did is just the worst.

    • that original TMZ article quoted someone as saying he had “3 miller lites and 3 girly shots between 10:30pm and 2:10am”, so i guess everyone is just taking TMZ and a twitpic as fact.

    • Knowing that he was drinking at all, and his judgement was impaired enough to think driving around 110 mph was okay, leaves enough room for a conversation to take place. I am not judging Ryan Dunn as a person, for all I know he was a saint, and I don’t know if his reckless behavior was fueled by being buzzed, tipsy or almost sober, but his last decision in life can easily be judged as reckless and could have turned out a lot worse. I think as a cautionary tale alone, even if it is to say “don’t drive 110 mph, drunk or not”, might be worth talking about.

  36. Team Bam. (my team really sucks)

  37. I just find it curious that Ebert posits the moral high ground, and then, in turn, makes light of the dead in the same sentence. Just because he’s right, doesn’t mean he isn’t intensely tactless to make his point the same day of death. I find it undermines the point he’s trying to make and makes it a controversy, when it should be a rather valid point. For someone who deals in words, this was a poor choice for him.

  38. A couple of points-
    1. Dunn’s passenger has been “unidentified” because s/he was literally unidentifiable. Dunn was so badly burned that they used his tattoos and hair to identify him. They may still be unknown.

    2. Dunn was out having drinks before the accident, but he was also traveling at more than 100mph on a windy, dark road. The chance of a horrible thing happening were great even if he hadn’t been drinking. Of course, the drinks may have made him think that speeding was a great idea, and may have inhibited him when things started to go wrong. There are many, many people that drive drunk every night and get home safely, partly because they are not driving 100mph. This is not intended as a defense of drunk driving — it is more an indictment of dangerous speeding, especially after drinking.

    3. Twitter has basically allowed one person who is removed from the situation to instantly affect another that is in it with the whole world able to watch. This is a new thing that our culture is not used to. Both things (commenting from afar, vulnerability from within) have been happening separately for quite some time, obviously, but Twitter has allowed the two to clash. Could Ebert have practiced some more humanity and remembered that people that loved Dunn are devastated? Yes. Could Margera have remembered that celebrity is a fucked up thing and comments regarding/because of it are usually worthless? Yes. In any case, the sympathy should lie with Margera (and those that knew Dunn), as he is the vulnerable one, and I think anyone in his position would appreciate the same consideration.

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